Jordan Peterson’s ‘Beyond Order’ (with Joseph Minich)

Jordan Peterson has recently released a new book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, a follow-up to his enormously popular 12 Rules for Life. My friend Joseph Minich joined me for a discussion of the book and some of the themes that it raises.

See more of Joseph’s work over on the Pilgrim Faith podcast and his Plausible Faith podcast series. He has also written the book Enduring Divine Absence: The Challenge of Modern Atheism.

Conversation with Paul VanderKlay on Jordan Peterson, Social Justice, Gender, the Church

I’ve followed Paul VanderKlay’s YouTube channel for some time. Paul is a minister in the Christian Reformed Church of North America, based in Sacramento. Seeing a profound interest in deep conversations with young men in particular following the rise of Jordan Peterson, he has made such conversations a key dimension of his ministry and now has a large following and extensive engagement with a demographic that so many other ministers are uncertain of how to reach. He recently invited me to have a conversation with him on his channel. We had a long call yesterday and this was the result.

You can also listen to the conversation in podcast format on Podbean or iTunes.